(Step away from the rulebook, and no one will get hurt!)
People who don't understand should just stop undermining their credibility by opening their mouths.
If you don't understand the system, do NOT try to set yourself up as an authority...you only make things worse for yourself in the long run, and frankly cause more harm on 'your' forum than you think...
Orks are top tier? SHIT...talk to Vito, or me fergawdsake... I love Pat and sometimes even Chris, but they're wrong. They are not the pure SHITE that yes-the-douche-hurts thinks they are, but they sure aren't top.
And if you are meched up and can't beat double-lash, you should be 40k neutered.... :(
(oh, and Daemons are DEAD in tournament...gack)